From bnsmith001 at gmail.com Tue Jun 2 16:49:08 2009 From: bnsmith001 at gmail.com (Barry Smith) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 10:49:08 -0400 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] Who do I contact about the WinPT version in gpg4win package... Message-ID: <123d590b0906020749m5774e6e8x4862bc229cf53c39@mail.gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 gpg4win support / build team -- I notice that the WinPT version included in gpg4win is still WinPT 1.2.0 . I went to WinPT's site to ask a question about GPG group support. While at their site, I noticed that WinPT does not even distribute WinPT 1.2.0 any more. WinPT is at 1.4.0. I really like the gpg4win suite, and would like to update to WinPT 1.4.0, but I don't think that the WinPT 1.4.0 from WinPT.org would install into the gpg4win structure. Is there a technical problem with adding WinPT 1.4.0 to the gpg4win suite? Thank you, - -- Barry Smith e bnsmith001 at gmail.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) - WinPT 1.2.0 Comment: Pub Key at http://biglumber.com/x/web?qs=BA649960 iEYEARECAAYFAkolO94ACgkQgOn/hLpkmWAgQgCdHueLaoij9JcO1j74YXdLe6G6 uEoAn0LJu+VkR3CzEs1cMli5qi5lK/1K =U5Al -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From bnsmith001 at gmail.com Tue Jun 2 17:20:13 2009 From: bnsmith001 at gmail.com (Barry Smith) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 11:20:13 -0400 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] Is gpg4win dropping winpt? Message-ID: <123d590b0906020820u3f6f7a69k21479b0639cc14f7@mail.gmail.com> Group: I heard yesterday from a WinPT support person that gpg4win is dropping WinPT. I'd like to get a response on this claim from gpg4win, but I cannot find where to ask about this statement from WinPT. WinPT is a far superior and a much more powerful and a much cleaner looking application than any other windows front-end for gpg. How can gpg4win think that WinPT is not an excellent tool to keep in the gpg4win package? Are there technical issues with adding WinPT 1.4.0 to gpg4win package? I understand that gpa is a logical inclusion for gpg4win in the outside chance that a Windows user is going to be visiting a Gnome Desktop and be forced to use gpa there, and so Windows users should be familiar with using gpa... a tool that doesn't support many of the features of a gpg public key (like the image feature). Yet dropping WinPT is just ridiculous without some major compatibility issue. WinPT is an awesome tool, far more flexible and easy-to-use that other gpg front-end. -- Barry Smith h 843-332-1369 c 704-497-4217 e bnsmith001 at gmail.com From sub.gpg4win at privateofcourse.co.uk Tue Jun 2 22:08:29 2009 From: sub.gpg4win at privateofcourse.co.uk (Privateofcourse) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 21:08:29 +0100 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] Is gpg4win dropping winpt? In-Reply-To: <123d590b0906020820u3f6f7a69k21479b0639cc14f7@mail.gmail.com> References: <123d590b0906020820u3f6f7a69k21479b0639cc14f7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1539299464.20090602210829@privateofcourse.co.uk> Hello Barry, This is what you said on Tue, 2 Jun 2009 11:20:13 -0400 your time: > I heard yesterday from a WinPT support person that gpg4win is dropping > WinPT. That would be totally disastrous! > WinPT is a far superior and a much more powerful and a much cleaner > looking application than any other windows front-end for gpg. Totally agree. There isn't really a decent choice of front ends available for Windows, and WinPT, although in desperate need of further development, is about the only decent way left of managing GPG via a GUI. > I understand that gpa is a logical inclusion for gpg4win... Don't like it, and don't use it. > Yet dropping WinPT is just ridiculous without some major compatibility > issue. Well I'd like to here more on this as well. GPGee never seems to work for very long before it stops doing anything so that leaves me with WinPT only. I'd love to see a really up-to-date front end for GPG windows users, but gpa isn't it IMO. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #922. Hew In Go Dowers? ? From bnsmith001 at gmail.com Wed Jun 3 07:26:22 2009 From: bnsmith001 at gmail.com (Barry Smith) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 01:26:22 -0400 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] Is gpg4win dropping winpt? In-Reply-To: <123d590b0906020820u3f6f7a69k21479b0639cc14f7@mail.gmail.com> References: <123d590b0906020820u3f6f7a69k21479b0639cc14f7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <123d590b0906022226x6967fca9ja95b6b6a55d785e@mail.gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Group: Yes, I know that it's bad form to reply to yourself on-list, but I have received three private emails in reply from fellow list members. One person replied to me twice off-list, agreeing that WinPT is the best. Two points that the person made were -- >> bs> WinPT is a far superior and a much more powerful and a much cleaner bs> looking application than any other windows front-end for gpg. Totally agree. There isn't really a decent choice of front ends available for Windows, and WinPT, although in desperate need of further development, is about the only decent way left of managing GPG via a GUI. >> ... and ... >> bs> Yet dropping WinPT is just ridiculous without some major compatibility bs> issue. Well I'd like to hear more on this as well. GPGee never seems to work for very long before it stops doing anything so that leaves me with WinPT only. I'd love to see a really up-to-date front end for GPG windows users, but gpa isn't it IMO. >> On the ' "up-to-date" front-end for GPG' topic, I mentioned on-group that WinPT has two major updates since WinPT 1.2.0. The current WinPT version is 1.4.0. - ---- I don't know why gpg4win has not updated WinPT to 1.4.0 in their package, and that is still an open question on this thread (if any gpg4win builders want to speak up). Another person asked me (off-list) -- ??> Have you looked into GPGShell? Yes, I started out using the GPGShell front-end initially (years ago). I just looked at the screenshots at http://www.jumaros.de/ , and I'm impressed with the updates to GPGShell (from when I used it years ago), but GPGShell doesn't appear to have ALL of the functionality that WinPT does. I'll download GPGShell and see. Back to topic - There must be a lot of (unspoken, silent majority) satisfaction out there with WinPT as part of gpg4win. Maybe a loss of WinPT from the gpg4win package will affect many others as it affects me. Feel free to speak up on-list. - -- If gpg4win IS dropping WinPT, could someone on the packaging team verify this contention, and explain why this contention is the path that was chosen? - -- If you are a gpg user and you like and use WinPT... and you think that it is a good part of the gpg4win package, let the gpg4win administrators/builders know. Speak out loud on this list, and make up a bug report and speak to them that way as well. (I was told once that a bug report was the only way to get anything done. Not sure I agree, but it was only a suggestion to me.) Slightly off-topic, but pertinent to the discussion/comparison of gpg front-ends -- - - The one global problem that I see in ALL gpg front-ends is group support... - --- Note: a "group" in GPG is the function/process to define a name for a group of keys, and encrypt to that group name using all of the keys (and groups) associated with the "group name". - --- - - ... which is what inspired me to start pouring through the code for FireGPG and see if I could help them add group support to their application. I've presented some ideas to the FireGPG team lead, and am working to make part of group support in FireGPG as similar to use as FireGPG's support of keys. The solution is still in the design stage, so I'll stop this discussion now on-group. :) Enjoy gpg4win. Currently it's a great package. - -- Barry Smith e bnsmith001 at gmail.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) - WinPT 1.2.0 Comment: Pub Key at http://biglumber.com/x/web?qs=BA649960 iEYEARECAAYFAkomCWgACgkQgOn/hLpkmWBHKgCeK/o6PVvZhoZsif8F5dxbx/mJ 1v0AnR7ZnVbvjuU+/P7QkEWPQZw90955 =ywuU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From wk at gnupg.org Wed Jun 3 08:05:15 2009 From: wk at gnupg.org (Werner Koch) Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 08:05:15 +0200 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] Sylpheed and GPG In-Reply-To: <20090528170717.48c8cc16.matthias@pannek.de> (Matthias Pannek's message of "Thu, 28 May 2009 17:07:17 +0200") References: <20090526121424.0c60a717.matthias@pannek.de> <200905281229.32592.bernhard@intevation.de> <20090528141444.3cfbd3d2.matthias@pannek.de> <873aapuzye.fsf@wheatstone.g10code.de> <20090528170717.48c8cc16.matthias@pannek.de> Message-ID: <87ab4p7sys.fsf@wheatstone.g10code.de> On Thu, 28 May 2009 17:07, matthias at pannek.de said: > I'm using the original port: > http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/download.html I have not seen the original Sylpheed for many years; even that I did the first port to Windows back in 2000. Shalom-Salam, Werner -- Die Gedanken sind frei. Auschnahme regelt ein Bundeschgesetz. From wk at gnupg.org Wed Jun 3 08:18:24 2009 From: wk at gnupg.org (Werner Koch) Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 08:18:24 +0200 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] Is gpg4win dropping winpt? In-Reply-To: <123d590b0906020820u3f6f7a69k21479b0639cc14f7@mail.gmail.com> (Barry Smith's message of "Tue, 2 Jun 2009 11:20:13 -0400") References: <123d590b0906020820u3f6f7a69k21479b0639cc14f7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8763fd7scv.fsf@wheatstone.g10code.de> On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 17:20, bnsmith001 at gmail.com said: > I heard yesterday from a WinPT support person that gpg4win is dropping > WinPT. I'd like to get a response on this claim from gpg4win, but I I tried to update WinPT for 1.1.4 without success. They seem to have dropped the cross build environment we once integrated. That is a no-go for Gpg4win. WinPT is also a Windows only tool and we try to avoid this. > Yet dropping WinPT is just ridiculous without some major compatibility > issue. WinPT is an awesome tool, far more flexible and easy-to-use > that other gpg front-end. The problem is that WinPT is a dead end. It is hard to change without a pure Microsoft toolchain and the community is only interested in Windows. Whereas many of the Unix folks try their best to write their software as portable as possible. If you look at the recent changes in GPA you will notice many more features than in GPA; in particular a smartcard support which is even more advance than the one in the gpg CLI. It is a lot of work to support several frontends; time is spare and thus we have to concentrate on those which fit best into our development system. If the WinPT folks would provide a version which cleanly builds with gpg4win we may consider to enable it again. Anyway, gpg4win is a meta installer and can build your own installer with WinPT. Salam-Shalom, Werner -- Die Gedanken sind frei. Auschnahme regelt ein Bundeschgesetz. From bernhard at intevation.de Thu Jun 18 16:13:02 2009 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:13:02 +0200 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] Is gpg4win dropping winpt? In-Reply-To: <123d590b0906022226x6967fca9ja95b6b6a55d785e@mail.gmail.com> References: <123d590b0906020820u3f6f7a69k21479b0639cc14f7@mail.gmail.com> <123d590b0906022226x6967fca9ja95b6b6a55d785e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200906181613.07400.bernhard@intevation.de> Barry, On Wednesday 03 June 2009, Barry Smith wrote: > Yes, I know that it's bad form to reply to yourself on-list, but I > have received three private emails in reply from fellow list members. it is all fine! Your interest in Gpg4win is much appreciated! @all, your opinion is really appreciated, so you are all free to speak up, ask questions or just complain. (Of course we appreciate if you try to find an answer first and if you keep it polite, but I think this goes without saying. ;) ) Werner already explained that there are technical difficulties in maintaing a WinPT build within the Gpg4win installer. If those problem can be solved, by anyone, we can consider adding it to Gpg4win again. The current plan of Gpg4win2 is to make Kleopatra the main key management application. > There isn't really a decent choice of front ends > available for Windows, and WinPT, although in desperate need of > further development, is about the only decent way left of managing GPG > via a GUI. Well GPA and Kleopatra might not be there yet, but because of their cross plattform nature, their development perspective is slightly better because of the greater community. Also both frontends use the modern way of connecting to the backendstack, called gpgme. This is another technical drawback of frontends: They should use gpgme and the gpgconf interfaces to be more update-save. > -- If you are a gpg user and you like and use WinPT... and you think > that it is a good part of the gpg4win package, let the gpg4win > administrators/builders know. Speak out loud on this list, and make > up a bug report and speak to them that way as well. > (I was told once that a bug report was the only way to get anything > done. Not sure I agree, but it was only a suggestion to me.) Doing a report is good, because arguments and discussion can be focussed at one point and archived. Of course it is fine to speak out on the list as well. > Enjoy gpg4win. Currently it's a great package. Thanks again for your feedback! We are really interested in your opinion about Gpg4win2, as we are very close to releasing 2.0.0 (e.g. unless something bad happens, we will release it before the Berlin GNU/Linuxtag, which means this or next week.) Best, Bernhard -- Managing Director - Owner: www.intevation.net (Free Software Company) Germany Coordinator: fsfeurope.org. Coordinator: www.Kolab-Konsortium.com. Intevation GmbH, Neuer Graben 17, Osnabr?ck, DE; AG Osnabr?ck, HRB 18998 Gesch?ftsf?hrer Frank Koormann, Bernhard Reiter, Dr. Jan-Oliver Wagner -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://lists.wald.intevation.org/pipermail/gpg4win-users-en/attachments/20090618/d961c0e0/attachment.pgp From bernhard at intevation.de Thu Jun 18 16:16:08 2009 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:16:08 +0200 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] group support (was: Is gpg4win dropping winpt?) In-Reply-To: <123d590b0906022226x6967fca9ja95b6b6a55d785e@mail.gmail.com> References: <123d590b0906020820u3f6f7a69k21479b0639cc14f7@mail.gmail.com> <123d590b0906022226x6967fca9ja95b6b6a55d785e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200906181616.09992.bernhard@intevation.de> On Wednesday 03 June 2009, Barry Smith wrote: > - The one global problem that I see in ALL gpg front-ends is group > support... --- > Note: a "group" in GPG is the function/process to define a name > for a group of keys, and encrypt to that group name using all of the > keys (and groups) associated with the "group name". > --- Note that the stance of Werner is that optimally the using client or frontend should handle the group case. E.g. with KMail (or Konqueror) you can add an contact (aka address) entry and put in all keys that you would want to use for encryption. The main reason is that the frontend client knows much more about the circumstances then the backend. This is the reason why the "group" hack in gnupg is not enhanced to help frontends to actually make use of it. > - ... which is what inspired me to start pouring through the code > for FireGPG and see if I could help them add group support to their > application. > > I've presented some ideas to the FireGPG team lead, and am working to > make part of group support in FireGPG as similar to use as FireGPG's > support of keys. The solution is still in the design stage, so I'll > stop this discussion now on-group. :) -- Managing Director - Owner: www.intevation.net (Free Software Company) Germany Coordinator: fsfeurope.org. Coordinator: www.Kolab-Konsortium.com. Intevation GmbH, Neuer Graben 17, Osnabr?ck, DE; AG Osnabr?ck, HRB 18998 Gesch?ftsf?hrer Frank Koormann, Bernhard Reiter, Dr. Jan-Oliver Wagner -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Known issues with 2.0.0rc1 that we intend to fix for 2.0.0 within the next three weeks, so it is likely to expect it to be released in week 28 or 29. * Stability on Vista (and probably W2K). * OpenPGP keys can directly be downloaded and imported. * Nicer, more consolidated Crypto-Result dialogs. (optional): Smartcard-Detection display Best, Bernhard -- Managing Director - Owner: www.intevation.net (Free Software Company) Germany Coordinator: fsfeurope.org. Coordinator: www.Kolab-Konsortium.com. Intevation GmbH, Osnabr?ck, DE; Amtsgericht Osnabr?ck, HRB 18998 Gesch?ftsf?hrer Frank Koormann, Bernhard Reiter, Dr. Jan-Oliver Wagner -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://lists.wald.intevation.org/pipermail/gpg4win-users-en/attachments/20090623/7aa796bb/attachment.pgp From sorin.srbu at orgfarm.uu.se Wed Jun 24 09:02:04 2009 From: sorin.srbu at orgfarm.uu.se (Sorin Srbu) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:02:04 +0200 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] Release planning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0) In-Reply-To: <200906231814.03044.bernhard@intevation.de> References: <200906231814.03044.bernhard@intevation.de> Message-ID: <004a01c9f499$ae282550$0a786ff0$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> >-----Original Message----- >From: gpg4win-users-en-bounces at wald.intevation.org [mailto:gpg4win-users-en- >bounces at wald.intevation.org] On Behalf Of Bernhard Reiter >Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 6:14 PM >To: gpg4win-devel at wald.intevation.org >Cc: gpg4win-users-en at wald.intevation.org; gpg4win-users-de at wald.intevation.org >Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] Release planning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0) > >Known issues with 2.0.0rc1 that we intend to fix for 2.0.0 within the next >three weeks, so it is likely to expect it to be released in week 28 or 29. >* Stability on Vista (and probably W2K). >* OpenPGP keys can directly be downloaded and imported. >* Nicer, more consolidated Crypto-Result dialogs. >(optional): Smartcard-Detection display Any gotcha's with Outlook 2007; does it work at all with Outlook 2007? -- /Sorin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Juni 2009 09:02:04 schrieb Sorin Srbu: > >Known issues with 2.0.0rc1 that we intend to fix for 2.0.0 within the next > >three weeks, so it is likely to expect it to be released in week 28 or 29. > >* Stability on Vista (and probably W2K). > >* OpenPGP keys can directly be downloaded and imported. > >* Nicer, more consolidated Crypto-Result dialogs. > >(optional): Smartcard-Detection display > > Any gotcha's with Outlook 2007; does it work at all with Outlook 2007? Gpg4win 2.0.0rc1 comes with GpgOl 1.0.0 which should work with Outlook 2007. There are a few issue when using it with Exchange, e.g. with read-only folder or sending emails in a few cases. For details of open issues in Gpgol, please see its tracker: https://bugs.g10code.com/gnupg/issue?@template=search If you can, give 2.0.0rc1 a spin, you can already download it and we appreciate feedback of course. Best, Bernhard -- Managing Director - Owner: www.intevation.net (Free Software Company) Germany Coordinator: fsfeurope.org. Coordinator: www.Kolab-Konsortium.com. Intevation GmbH, Osnabr?ck, DE; Amtsgericht Osnabr?ck, HRB 18998 Gesch?ftsf?hrer Frank Koormann, Bernhard Reiter, Dr. Jan-Oliver Wagner -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://lists.wald.intevation.org/pipermail/gpg4win-users-en/attachments/20090624/09d7ddc2/attachment.pgp From sorin.srbu at orgfarm.uu.se Wed Jun 24 14:46:48 2009 From: sorin.srbu at orgfarm.uu.se (Sorin Srbu) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:46:48 +0200 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] Release planning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0) In-Reply-To: <200906241439.51634.bernhard@intevation.de> References: <200906231814.03044.bernhard@intevation.de> <004a01c9f499$ae282550$0a786ff0$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> <200906241439.51634.bernhard@intevation.de> Message-ID: <00fb01c9f4c9$d7139b40$853ad1c0$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> >-----Original Message----- >From: gpg4win-users-en-bounces at wald.intevation.org [mailto:gpg4win-users-en- >bounces at wald.intevation.org] On Behalf Of Bernhard Reiter >Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:40 PM >To: gpg4win-users-en at wald.intevation.org >Subject: Re: [Gpg4win-users-en] Release planning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0) > >> Any gotcha's with Outlook 2007; does it work at all with Outlook 2007? > >Gpg4win 2.0.0rc1 comes with GpgOl 1.0.0 which should work with Outlook 2007. >There are a few issue when using it with Exchange, e.g. with read-only folder >or sending emails in a few cases. > >For details of open issues in Gpgol, please see its tracker: >https://bugs.g10code.com/gnupg/issue?@template=search > >If you can, give 2.0.0rc1 a spin, you can already download it >and we appreciate feedback of course. Ok, downloading as I write this. Thanks for the the hint. 8-) Will get back with any feedback in a little while. -- /Sorin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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A little feedback: I tested this between my work mail account using Outlook 2007 and GPG4win 2 and my gmail-account on a machine running WinXP SP3 US English, Outlook 2003 and GPG4win 1.1.4.. I used keys created previously with Gpg4win 1.1.3.. No Exchange-servers involved. All software at their latest service pack level and all critical and recommended fixes installed. The RC1 release seems to work fine, except for some quirks with "Leave message open when processing done" that I have to uncheck every time I send an encrypted mail. Also I can't seem to get the background gpg4win programs to run all English menus; I get mixed English and Swedish menus for some reason. In either case I can't find any preferences page to set this. Cleopatra seems to be running smoothly once it's been started up properly. Almost all settings are Greek to me in the sub programs (I don't speak Greek as it were 8-}), compared to WinPT et al with Gpg4win 1.1.4 and 1.1.3.. It might be a learning curve though. The novice manual offered some help but I think I need more than that, this is not critical in any way. I got some errors initially because I use a S/MIME signature to digitally sign all my mails. Disabling this when I send an encrypted mail, solved the problem. So far so good. Have sent a few test mails to an colleague of mine outside of the university to see if he also can see/unencrypt the mails properly. Will be back with more feedback then. -- /Sorin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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No Exchange-servers involved. All software at their > latest service pack level and all critical and recommended fixes installed. > The RC1 release seems to work fine, except for some quirks thanks for the testing and the nice feedback! > with "Leave > message open when processing done" that I have to uncheck every time I send > an encrypted mail. Can you describe this problem in more detail? Using OpenPGP or S/MIME? > Also I can't seem to get the background gpg4win programs > to run all English menus; I get mixed English and Swedish menus for some > reason. In either case I can't find any preferences page to set this. Are there any setting for Swedish on your machine? (BTW, it might be that some parts are not yet translated to Swedisch, thus a mixure.) > Cleopatra seems to be running smoothly once it's been started up properly. > > Almost all settings are Greek to me in the sub programs (I don't speak > Greek as it were 8-}), compared to WinPT et al with Gpg4win 1.1.4 and > 1.1.3.. It might be a learning curve though. The novice manual offered some > help but I think I need more than that, this is not critical in any way. Greek? Wow. So you have English, Swedish and Greek mixiup? Can you give an example for such a dialog? In what language does the command.exe's gnupg2.exe and gpg-conf.exe speak to you? > I got some errors initially because I use a S/MIME signature to digitally > sign all my mails. Disabling this when I send an encrypted mail, solved the > problem. But you are still able to sign with S/MIME, aren't you? > So far so good. Have sent a few test mails to an colleague of mine outside > of the university to see if he also can see/unencrypt the mails properly. > Will be back with more feedback then. Wonderful, thanks again, Bernhard -- Managing Director - Owner: www.intevation.net (Free Software Company) Germany Coordinator: fsfeurope.org. Coordinator: www.Kolab-Konsortium.com. Intevation GmbH, Osnabr?ck, DE; Amtsgericht Osnabr?ck, HRB 18998 Gesch?ftsf?hrer Frank Koormann, Bernhard Reiter, Dr. Jan-Oliver Wagner -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2616 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.wald.intevation.org/pipermail/gpg4win-users-en/attachments/20090624/6f41a36f/smime-0001.bin From welmers at gmail.com Wed Jun 24 17:57:57 2009 From: welmers at gmail.com (Bernard Welmers) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:57:57 -0500 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] Release planning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0) In-Reply-To: <200906241703.01660.bernhard@intevation.de> References: <200906231814.03044.bernhard@intevation.de> <200906241439.51634.bernhard@intevation.de> <200906241703.01660.bernhard@intevation.de> Message-ID: Well it looks like there is a little bit of English mix up occurring. "its Greek to me" - an English saying meaning it is foreign or not understandable. -- ************************************************* Bernard Welmers welmers at gmail.com 952-465-7054 ************************************************* On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Bernhard Reiter wrote: > Sorin, > > Am Mittwoch, 24. Juni 2009 16:06:19 schrieb Sorin Srbu: > > A little feedback: I tested this between my work mail account using > Outlook > > 2007 and GPG4win 2 and my gmail-account on a machine running WinXP SP3 US > > English, Outlook 2003 and GPG4win 1.1.4.. I used keys created previously > > with Gpg4win 1.1.3.. No Exchange-servers involved. All software at their > > latest service pack level and all critical and recommended fixes > installed. > > > The RC1 release seems to work fine, except for some quirks > > thanks for the testing and the nice feedback! > > > with "Leave > > message open when processing done" that I have to uncheck every time I > send > > an encrypted mail. > > Can you describe this problem in more detail? > Using OpenPGP or S/MIME? > > > Also I can't seem to get the background gpg4win programs > > to run all English menus; I get mixed English and Swedish menus for some > > reason. In either case I can't find any preferences page to set this. > > Are there any setting for Swedish on your machine? > (BTW, it might be that some parts are not yet translated to Swedisch, thus > a > mixure.) > > > Cleopatra seems to be running smoothly once it's been started up > properly. > > > > Almost all settings are Greek to me in the sub programs (I don't speak > > Greek as it were 8-}), compared to WinPT et al with Gpg4win 1.1.4 and > > 1.1.3.. It might be a learning curve though. The novice manual offered > some > > help but I think I need more than that, this is not critical in any way. > > Greek? Wow. So you have English, Swedish and Greek mixiup? > Can you give an example for such a dialog? > In what language does the command.exe's gnupg2.exe and gpg-conf.exe > speak to you? > > > I got some errors initially because I use a S/MIME signature to digitally > > sign all my mails. Disabling this when I send an encrypted mail, solved > the > > problem. > > But you are still able to sign with S/MIME, aren't you? > > > So far so good. Have sent a few test mails to an colleague of mine > outside > > of the university to see if he also can see/unencrypt the mails properly. > > Will be back with more feedback then. > > Wonderful, thanks again, > Bernhard > > -- > Managing Director - Owner: www.intevation.net (Free Software > Company) > Germany Coordinator: fsfeurope.org. Coordinator: www.Kolab-Konsortium.com > . > Intevation GmbH, Osnabr?ck, DE; Amtsgericht Osnabr?ck, HRB 18998 > Gesch?ftsf?hrer Frank Koormann, Bernhard Reiter, Dr. Jan-Oliver Wagner > > _______________________________________________ > Gpg4win-users-en mailing list > Gpg4win-users-en at wald.intevation.org > http://lists.wald.intevation.org/mailman/listinfo/gpg4win-users-en > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wald.intevation.org/pipermail/gpg4win-users-en/attachments/20090624/d6e2b8b9/attachment.htm From bernhard at intevation.de Wed Jun 24 21:10:37 2009 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:10:37 +0200 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] Release planning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0) In-Reply-To: References: <200906231814.03044.bernhard@intevation.de> <200906241703.01660.bernhard@intevation.de> Message-ID: <200906242110.42089.bernhard@intevation.de> On Wednesday 24 June 2009, Bernard Welmers wrote: > Well it looks like there is a little bit of English mix up occurring. > > "its Greek to me" - an English saying meaning it is foreign or not > understandable. I appreciate the hint, though my comment was a bit tongue in cheek as it just read funny: English menus, mixed with Swedish and Greek submenus. :) I wanted to get an idea why the submenus could not be understood, so an example would be nice. > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Bernhard Reiter wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, 24. Juni 2009 16:06:19 schrieb Sorin Srbu: > > > A little feedback: I tested this between my work mail account using > > > Also I can't seem to get the background gpg4win programs > > > to run all English menus; I get mixed English and Swedish menus for > > > some reason. > > > Almost all settings are Greek to me in the sub programs (I don't speak > > > Greek as it were 8-}), > > Greek? Wow. 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Url : http://lists.wald.intevation.org/pipermail/gpg4win-users-en/attachments/20090624/83d60ef0/attachment.pgp From sorin.srbu at orgfarm.uu.se Thu Jun 25 09:09:57 2009 From: sorin.srbu at orgfarm.uu.se (Sorin Srbu) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:09:57 +0200 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] Release planning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0) In-Reply-To: <200906241703.01660.bernhard@intevation.de> References: <200906231814.03044.bernhard@intevation.de> <200906241439.51634.bernhard@intevation.de> <001401c9f4d4$f2512ca0$d6f385e0$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> <200906241703.01660.bernhard@intevation.de> Message-ID: <006801c9f563$f257fd70$d707f850$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> >-----Original Message----- >From: gpg4win-users-en-bounces at wald.intevation.org [mailto:gpg4win-users-en- >bounces at wald.intevation.org] On Behalf Of Bernhard Reiter >Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:03 PM >To: gpg4win-users-en at wald.intevation.org >Subject: Re: [Gpg4win-users-en] Release planning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0) > >> The RC1 release seems to work fine, except for some quirks > >thanks for the testing and the nice feedback! No problem, I have more info, see bottom of this mail! >> with "Leave >> message open when processing done" that I have to uncheck every time I send >> an encrypted mail. > >Can you describe this problem in more detail? >Using OpenPGP or S/MIME? Just after pressing Send on my mailer I get a pop-up saying message successfully encrypted and a close button. I press this close button, then minimize Outlook to continue work, and there behind is some kind of status window which at the bottom has a checked checkbox saying "keep window open when done processing" or some such. I found some settings in Kleopatra I think it was that offered "keep more silent" on several tabs. I checked them all to see if they did anything. This was while Gpg4win, ie OpenPGP. >> Also I can't seem to get the background gpg4win programs >> to run all English menus; I get mixed English and Swedish menus for some >> reason. In either case I can't find any preferences page to set this. > >Are there any setting for Swedish on your machine? >(BTW, it might be that some parts are not yet translated to Swedisch, thus a >mixure.) You're misunderstanding, I don't want the Swedish menus, I want it all-english. My system is otherwise all-english as well. It's a university thing where eg Indian or Chinese Phd-students or postdocs wouldn't be able to make head or tail of a Swedish Windows, so we run all-english OS and supporting software. 8-) >> Cleopatra seems to be running smoothly once it's been started up properly. >> >> Almost all settings are Greek to me in the sub programs (I don't speak >> Greek as it were 8-}), compared to WinPT et al with Gpg4win 1.1.4 and >> 1.1.3.. It might be a learning curve though. The novice manual offered some >> help but I think I need more than that, this is not critical in any way. > >Greek? Wow. So you have English, Swedish and Greek mixiup? >Can you give an example for such a dialog? >In what language does the command.exe's gnupg2.exe and gpg-conf.exe >speak to you? LOL! No, no, no, it's all greek to me in the meaning "I don't understand any of it" - the settings in gpg4win, I don't know what they do. The menus in GPG4win here is a mix of English and Swedish only, as mentioned before. >> I got some errors initially because I use a S/MIME signature to digitally >> sign all my mails. Disabling this when I send an encrypted mail, solved the >> problem. > >But you are still able to sign with S/MIME, aren't you? Just to make this completely clear: when I started using Outlook 2007 I realized gpg4win 1.1.3 didn't work with this mailer. I then resorted to a free digital signature (S/MIME type) from Comodo to use with Outlook 2007 with which I signed all my mails while waiting for you guys to fix gpg4win. It's this signature that does not work if I chose to encrypt mails with gpg4win. Disabling the digital signature temporarily fixes the problem. This has been the case ever since gpg4win 1.1.3, so it's not really a problem for me anymore. Just thought I'd mention this small annoyance or whatever you want to call it. If I don't encrypt a mail with gpg4win I can sign the mails just fine the digital signature. >> So far so good. Have sent a few test mails to an colleague of mine outside >> of the university to see if he also can see/unencrypt the mails properly. >> Will be back with more feedback then. > >Wonderful, thanks again, This morning when I started Outlook, it froze. Force-quitting it solved the problem of course. When I started it again, it reported that the gpgol addin caused a problem and would I like to disable it. I chose yes, and outlook started fine afterwards. While in outlook, I enabled the addin again and closed outlook then tried starting it again. Gpgol blew up again. It's now disabled, and gpg4win is non-functional. This has happened frequently with earlier versions of gpg4win, eg versions 1.1.3, 1.1.4, the 1.1.9 betas and now the 2.0 RC1. This seems to only happen with outlook 2007. What is it that gpg4win does that outlook 2007 can't handle?? 8-/ HTH. -- /Sorin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I get it, no problem. 8-) Example included in this morning's report. It should arrive shortly. -- /Sorin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Is this a misconfiguration of the list server or something? Clicking reply-all, adds the list address, as well as the person. It's an annoyance, not a problem though. -- /Sorin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Same sort of thing here: When I Reply both member and list addresses get added to the TO field. To get around it I had to create a template and use a MACRO to clear the TO field and then a MACRO to add the list address back again. Reply To All is the same, except it also adds gpg4win-users-en at wald.intevation.org to the CC field...but then I never use Reply To All on lists. > It's an annoyance, not a problem though. Yeah, it is a bit of an annoyance, but it would be more annoying if my email client didn't have template MACROs so that I could deal with it. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) # 5693. Woes Grind Howe? ? ? ? From sorin.srbu at orgfarm.uu.se Thu Jun 25 11:07:59 2009 From: sorin.srbu at orgfarm.uu.se (Sorin Srbu) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:07:59 +0200 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] Release planning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0) In-Reply-To: <006801c9f563$f257fd70$d707f850$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> References: <200906231814.03044.bernhard@intevation.de> <200906241439.51634.bernhard@intevation.de> <001401c9f4d4$f2512ca0$d6f385e0$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> <200906241703.01660.bernhard@intevation.de> <006801c9f563$f257fd70$d707f850$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> Message-ID: <00a801c9f574$6f7cc870$4e765950$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> >-----Original Message----- >From: gpg4win-users-en-bounces at wald.intevation.org [mailto:gpg4win-users-en- >bounces at wald.intevation.org] On Behalf Of Sorin Srbu >Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:10 AM >To: gpg4win-users-en at wald.intevation.org >Subject: Re: [Gpg4win-users-en] Release planning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0) > >This morning when I started Outlook, it froze. Force-quitting it solved the >problem of course. When I started it again, it reported that the gpgol addin >caused a problem and would I like to disable it. I chose yes, and outlook >started fine afterwards. While in outlook, I enabled the addin again and >closed outlook then tried starting it again. Gpgol blew up again. It's now >disabled, and gpg4win is non-functional. This has happened frequently with >earlier versions of gpg4win, eg versions 1.1.3, 1.1.4, the 1.1.9 betas and >now >the 2.0 RC1. This seems to only happen with outlook 2007. > >What is it that gpg4win does that outlook 2007 can't handle?? 8-/ Did some tests and at the second try, Outlook froze completely, even though the gpgol add-in was disabled. Only way to get Outlook working again was to uninstall Gpg4win v2.0 RC1. 8-/ -- /Sorin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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There is a while discussion on this topic, start here: http://list.org/mailman-admin/node11.html In short, a good email application should have a reply-to-sender and reply-to-group method (button, key-combination, whatever). :) Intevation's default policy therefore is to rely on this and not mangle the reply-to. However if a majority of list-users believes that this would make life much more easier for them, we can change it on a per list decision. > Same sort of thing here: > > When I Reply both member and list addresses get added to the TO field. To > get around it I had to create a template and use a MACRO to clear the TO > field and then a MACRO to add the list address back again. > > Reply To All is the same, except it also adds > gpg4win-users-en at wald.intevation.org to the CC field...but then I never use > Reply To All on lists. > > > It's an annoyance, not a problem though. > > Yeah, it is a bit of an annoyance, but it would be more annoying if my > email client didn't have template MACROs so that I could deal with it. Are you using Outlook? As it would be good to know a way for Outlook to deal with it. Bernhard -- Managing Director - Owner: www.intevation.net (Free Software Company) Germany Coordinator: fsfeurope.org. Coordinator: www.Kolab-Konsortium.com. Intevation GmbH, Neuer Graben 17, Osnabr?ck, DE; AG Osnabr?ck, HRB 18998 Gesch?ftsf?hrer Frank Koormann, Bernhard Reiter, Dr. Jan-Oliver Wagner -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 546 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.wald.intevation.org/pipermail/gpg4win-users-en/attachments/20090625/942eef53/smime.bin From bernhard at intevation.de Thu Jun 25 11:36:25 2009 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:36:25 +0200 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] Release planning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0) In-Reply-To: <006801c9f563$f257fd70$d707f850$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> References: <200906231814.03044.bernhard@intevation.de> <200906241703.01660.bernhard@intevation.de> <006801c9f563$f257fd70$d707f850$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> Message-ID: <200906251136.31130.bernhard@intevation.de> On Thursday 25 June 2009, Sorin Srbu wrote: > >> with "Leave > >> message open when processing done" that I have to uncheck every time I > >> send an encrypted mail. > > > >Can you describe this problem in more detail? > >Using OpenPGP or S/MIME? > > Just after pressing Send on my mailer I get a pop-up saying message > successfully encrypted and a close button. I press this close button, then > minimize Outlook to continue work, and there behind is some kind of status > window which at the bottom has a checked checkbox saying "keep window open > when done processing" or some such. I found some settings in Kleopatra I > think it was that offered "keep more silent" on several tabs. I checked > them all to see if they did anything. This was while Gpg4win, ie OpenPGP. We have one change in result windows coming up for 2.0.0, I would appreciate feedback on this after the change. > >> Also I can't seem to get the background gpg4win programs > >> to run all English menus; I get mixed English and Swedish menus for some > >> reason. In either case I can't find any preferences page to set this. > > > >Are there any setting for Swedish on your machine? > >(BTW, it might be that some parts are not yet translated to Swedisch, thus > > a mixure.) > > You're misunderstanding, I don't want the Swedish menus, I want it > all-english. My system is otherwise all-english as well. It's a university > thing where eg Indian or Chinese Phd-students or postdocs wouldn't be able > to make head or tail of a Swedish Windows, so we run all-english OS and > supporting software. 8-) There must be a Swedish setting somewhere, otherwise the applications from gpg4win would not know about it. I would like to know where. Try "gpg2.exe" on the command line and also check the result of "set" for something suspicious. > the settings in gpg4win, I don't know what they do. The menus > in GPG4win here is a mix of English and Swedish only, as mentioned before. There are many settings, that is true some documentation can be found in the documentation to the crypto backend. The new compendium will again have more info and will be translated to English also. Also feel free to ask for settings or a group of settings here, so we get a hint what you are missunderstanding or want to know. > >> I got some errors initially because I use a S/MIME signature to > >> digitally sign all my mails. Disabling this when I send an encrypted > >> mail, solved the problem. > > > >But you are still able to sign with S/MIME, aren't you? > > Just to make this completely clear: when I started using Outlook 2007 I > realized gpg4win 1.1.3 didn't work with this mailer. I then resorted to a > free digital signature (S/MIME type) from Comodo to use with Outlook 2007 > with which I signed all my mails while waiting for you guys to fix gpg4win. I guess you've got a certificate from them so you can create digital signatures using Outlook's on board mechanisms. Then you should be able to also import the private key into gpgsm and use GpgOL to sign with the same certificate. (Note it can be a bit tricky to set up the status for the certificate.) > It's this signature that does not work if I chose to encrypt mails with > gpg4win. Disabling the digital signature temporarily fixes the problem. > This has been the case ever since gpg4win 1.1.3, so it's not really a > problem for me anymore. Just thought I'd mention this small annoyance or > whatever you want to call it. Ah, make sure you read the readme of Gpg4win. There is some marking going on within the emails, so different crypto handling package to not get into each others ways. This causes trouble if you migrate back and forth between several crypto solutions for Outlook. > If I don't encrypt a mail with gpg4win I can sign the mails just fine the > digital signature. You should be able to do both sign and encrypt with Gpg4win. ;) > This morning when I started Outlook, it froze. Force-quitting it solved the > problem of course. When I started it again, it reported that the gpgol > addin caused a problem and would I like to disable it. I chose yes, and > outlook started fine afterwards. While in outlook, I enabled the addin > again and closed outlook then tried starting it again. Gpgol blew up again. > It's now disabled, and gpg4win is non-functional. This has happened > frequently with earlier versions of gpg4win, eg versions 1.1.3, 1.1.4, the > 1.1.9 betas and now the 2.0 RC1. This seems to only happen with outlook > 2007. > > What is it that gpg4win does that outlook 2007 can't handle?? 8-/ I don't know. You could check if the dirmngr is running, trying to get something. Or you can enable the debugging infor of Gpgol and look for issues. Best, Bernhard -- Managing Director - Owner: www.intevation.net (Free Software Company) Germany Coordinator: fsfeurope.org. Coordinator: www.Kolab-Konsortium.com. Intevation GmbH, Neuer Graben 17, Osnabr?ck, DE; AG Osnabr?ck, HRB 18998 Gesch?ftsf?hrer Frank Koormann, Bernhard Reiter, Dr. Jan-Oliver Wagner -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(RITLabs). But JFTR, and for anyone else using TB! adding this to your Reply template is the solution: %TO=""%TO="gpg4win-users-en at wald.intevation.org" I'm not really familiar with Outlook, but would using Outlook templates with the Rules Wizard be a solution? That is, setting up and assigning a reply template for this list? -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #26898. Who Gin Wed Ores? ? ? ? From sorin.srbu at orgfarm.uu.se Thu Jun 25 12:12:44 2009 From: sorin.srbu at orgfarm.uu.se (Sorin Srbu) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:12:44 +0200 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] reply-to "mangling" (was: Release planning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0)) In-Reply-To: <200906251125.36224.bernhard@intevation.de> References: <200906231814.03044.bernhard@intevation.de> <009701c9f564$5a11cae0$0e3560a0$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> <526999649.20090625092354@privateofcourse.co.uk> <200906251125.36224.bernhard@intevation.de> Message-ID: <00c801c9f57d$7b980fd0$72c82f70$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> >-----Original Message----- >From: gpg4win-users-en-bounces at wald.intevation.org [mailto:gpg4win-users-en- >bounces at wald.intevation.org] On Behalf Of Bernhard Reiter >Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:26 AM >To: gpg4win-users-en at wald.intevation.org >Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] reply-to "mangling" (was: Release planning (2.0.0rc1 >and 2.0.0)) > >There is a while discussion on this topic, start here: >http://list.org/mailman-admin/node11.html > >In short, a good email application should have a reply-to-sender >and reply-to-group method (button, key-combination, whatever). :) > >Intevation's default policy therefore is to rely on this and >not mangle the reply-to. However if a majority of list-users believes >that this would make life much more easier for them, we can change >it on a per list decision. Our favourite mailer, Outlook, has in its default configuration a reply-, a reply all- and a forward button. Who else would use Gpg4win? I vote for doing this, that is to say the reply button should put the list address in the top-field. I can live with it as it is now though, it's just an annoyance. I've several times mailed specific persons instead of the list, and only caught the error on a random chance. -- /Sorin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I press this close button, then >> minimize Outlook to continue work, and there behind is some kind of status >> window which at the bottom has a checked checkbox saying "keep window open >> when done processing" or some such. I found some settings in Kleopatra I >> think it was that offered "keep more silent" on several tabs. I checked >> them all to see if they did anything. This was while Gpg4win, ie OpenPGP. > >We have one change in result windows coming up for 2.0.0, >I would appreciate feedback on this after the change. That will be announced on this list, right? As is now, I can't use RC1 at all, so no feedback from me for now. Sorry. 8-/ -- /Sorin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 5106 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.wald.intevation.org/pipermail/gpg4win-users-en/attachments/20090625/fe559463/smime.bin From iain at holuwon.com Thu Jun 25 14:59:25 2009 From: iain at holuwon.com (IW) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:59:25 +0900 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] Release planning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0) In-Reply-To: <526999649.20090625092354@privateofcourse.co.uk> References: <200906231814.03044.bernhard@intevation.de> <200906241703.01660.bernhard@intevation.de> <200906242110.42089.bernhard@intevation.de> <009701c9f564$5a11cae0$0e3560a0$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> <526999649.20090625092354@privateofcourse.co.uk> Message-ID: <20090625215925.e89eed56.iain@holuwon.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Pada Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:23:54 +0100, Privateofcourse menulis email dengan judul (Re: [Gpg4win-users-en] Release planning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0)): > Hello Sorin, > > This is what you said on Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:12:50 +0200 your time: > > > Whenever I reply to a mail on this list, it replies to the person > > sending it instead of the mailing list. > > Same sort of thing here: > > When I Reply both member and list addresses get added to the TO > field. To get around it I had to create a template and use a MACRO to > clear the TO field and then a MACRO to add the list address back > again. > > Reply To All is the same, except it also adds > gpg4win-users-en at wald.intevation.org to the CC field...but then I > never use Reply To All on lists. > > > It's an annoyance, not a problem though. I do not know what email client you are using (I was unable to determine from your headers). I use sylpheed and in the options menu I have a box I can tick which determines whether replies are to the list or the the original sender. I see Sorin is using MS Outlook - I believe there is an option there too but I have not used Outlook very much so am not certain. It should not be necessary to make changes elsewhere - although some list settings sometimes direct replies to go to individuals rather than the list. IW - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: https://keyserver2.pgp.com/ iEYEARECAAYFAkpDOnQACgkQ90Gf33Iu52XbjwCgsOSBJol62N/T3nddqI79zvRh YCQAoJweNfpawi8oPHf+fLEu+Vf4Kosr =kSnr - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: https://keyserver2.pgp.com/ iEYEARECAAYFAkpDdK0ACgkQ90Gf33Iu52XfTQCgiOCK7xl4u8jHvssI8z4K1MHq x6UAoOlQyFfYf0LFsSsJzkWQcUL5waHe =w9r+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sorin.srbu at orgfarm.uu.se Thu Jun 25 15:03:05 2009 From: sorin.srbu at orgfarm.uu.se (Sorin Srbu) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:03:05 +0200 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] Release planning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0) In-Reply-To: <20090625215925.e89eed56.iain@holuwon.com> References: <200906231814.03044.bernhard@intevation.de> <200906241703.01660.bernhard@intevation.de> <200906242110.42089.bernhard@intevation.de> <009701c9f564$5a11cae0$0e3560a0$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> <526999649.20090625092354@privateofcourse.co.uk> <20090625215925.e89eed56.iain@holuwon.com> Message-ID: <004101c9f595$48264690$d872d3b0$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> >-----Original Message----- >From: gpg4win-users-en-bounces at wald.intevation.org [mailto:gpg4win-users-en- >bounces at wald.intevation.org] On Behalf Of IW >Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:59 PM >To: gpg4win-users-en at wald.intevation.org >Subject: Re: [Gpg4win-users-en] Release planning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0) > >I do not know what email client you are using (I was unable to >determine from your headers). I use sylpheed and in the options menu I >have a box I can tick which determines whether replies are to the list >or the the original sender. I see Sorin is using MS Outlook - I believe >there is an option there too but I have not used Outlook very much so >am not certain. > >It should not be necessary to make changes elsewhere - although some >list settings sometimes direct replies to go to individuals rather than >the list. If there is a setting for this, I'd like a hint or two as to where I can find those. I for one haven't seen this. Unless it's a registry setting? Anybody? -- /Sorin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 5106 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.wald.intevation.org/pipermail/gpg4win-users-en/attachments/20090625/7f8fae53/smime-0001.bin From paul at claws-mail.org Thu Jun 25 18:50:17 2009 From: paul at claws-mail.org (Paul) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:50:17 +0100 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] reply-to "mangling" (was: Release planning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0)) In-Reply-To: <00c801c9f57d$7b980fd0$72c82f70$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> References: <200906231814.03044.bernhard@intevation.de> <009701c9f564$5a11cae0$0e3560a0$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> <526999649.20090625092354@privateofcourse.co.uk> <200906251125.36224.bernhard@intevation.de> <00c801c9f57d$7b980fd0$72c82f70$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> Message-ID: <20090625175017.29c6880d@thewildbeast> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:12:44 +0200 "Sorin Srbu" wrote: > I vote for doing this, that is to say the reply button should put > the list address in the top-field. I agree with Bernhard - good email applications are mailing list aware. It may help others on this list, (with not-so-good email applications), if you did not add a Reply-To: to your mails. A Reply-To header that contains the same address as the From header is totally pointless anyway. with regards Paul -- "Thanks to his green candle, the 'Pataphysician can lighten our darkness." From sub.gpg4win at privateofcourse.co.uk Thu Jun 25 20:09:33 2009 From: sub.gpg4win at privateofcourse.co.uk (Privateofcourse) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:09:33 +0100 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] reply-to "mangling" (was: Release planning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0)) In-Reply-To: <20090625175017.29c6880d@thewildbeast> References: <200906231814.03044.bernhard@intevation.de> <009701c9f564$5a11cae0$0e3560a0$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> <526999649.20090625092354@privateofcourse.co.uk> <200906251125.36224.bernhard@intevation.de> <00c801c9f57d$7b980fd0$72c82f70$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> <20090625175017.29c6880d@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <1139715687.20090625190933@privateofcourse.co.uk> Hello Paul, This is what you said on Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:50:17 +0100 your time: > It may help others on this list, (with not-so-good email applications) Well, I know this is going even more OT, but with all due respect, that's a rather harsh judgement to make, and one I don't particularly agree with. Not in any respect would I consider the email client (RITLabs's The Bat!) I've used for many years to be a "not-so-good email application" simply because of the absence of a few specific menu entries, or keyboard functions. I've never been thwarted by any lists' practises using it. That rant aside, the Reply-to munging argument has raged on ad nauseam, and there is still not, IMO, any overwhelming consensus as to the evil of the practise, no matter how many 'considered harmful' claims are bandied around. Personally I think munging the Reply-to would be helpful and not harmful to people, and of the many, many lists I've belonged to in the past - and the ones I still belong to - a significant number do it. I'm not exactly concerned which direction is taken here as I do have a very good email client that can accommodate any list's foibles, but I do think the issue is one of making it easier for people to use the list at the end of the day and not whether someone's email client is up to muster or not... -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #21248. Sow Grew On Hied? ? ? ? From paul at claws-mail.org Thu Jun 25 21:34:26 2009 From: paul at claws-mail.org (Paul) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:34:26 +0100 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] reply-to "mangling" (was: Release planning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0)) In-Reply-To: <1139715687.20090625190933@privateofcourse.co.uk> References: <200906231814.03044.bernhard@intevation.de> <009701c9f564$5a11cae0$0e3560a0$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> <526999649.20090625092354@privateofcourse.co.uk> <200906251125.36224.bernhard@intevation.de> <00c801c9f57d$7b980fd0$72c82f70$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> <20090625175017.29c6880d@thewildbeast> <1139715687.20090625190933@privateofcourse.co.uk> Message-ID: <20090625203426.0d13b923@thewildbeast> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:09:33 +0100 Privateofcourse wrote: > > It may help others on this list, (with not-so-good email > > applications) > > Well, I know this is going even more OT, but with all due respect, > that's a rather harsh judgement to make, and one I don't > particularly agree with. That sentence was directed at Sorin Srbu, who sets a Reply-To, (as do you), not about Reply-To munging by the list software. But,anyway we digress... :) with regards Paul -- "Thanks to his green candle, the 'Pataphysician can lighten our darkness." From sorin.srbu at orgfarm.uu.se Fri Jun 26 09:09:33 2009 From: sorin.srbu at orgfarm.uu.se (Sorin Srbu) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:09:33 +0200 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] reply-to "mangling" (was: Release planning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0)) In-Reply-To: <20090625175017.29c6880d@thewildbeast> References: <200906231814.03044.bernhard@intevation.de> <009701c9f564$5a11cae0$0e3560a0$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> <526999649.20090625092354@privateofcourse.co.uk> <200906251125.36224.bernhard@intevation.de> <00c801c9f57d$7b980fd0$72c82f70$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> <20090625175017.29c6880d@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <003701c9f62d$0ebdf0e0$2c39d2a0$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> >-----Original Message----- >From: gpg4win-users-en-bounces at wald.intevation.org [mailto:gpg4win-users-en- >bounces at wald.intevation.org] On Behalf Of Paul >Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 6:50 PM >To: gpg4win-users-en at wald.intevation.org >Subject: Re: [Gpg4win-users-en] reply-to "mangling" (was: Release planning >(2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0)) > >On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:12:44 +0200 >"Sorin Srbu" wrote: > >> I vote for doing this, that is to say the reply button should put >> the list address in the top-field. > >I agree with Bernhard - good email applications are mailing list >aware. Sometimes you have no choice but using Outlook. 8-) >It may help others on this list, (with not-so-good email >applications), if you did not add a Reply-To: to your mails. A >Reply-To header that contains the same address as the From header is >totally pointless anyway. Sure, I can do that. It doesn't help me though when I reply to eg this mail that you wrote; it still adds your personal email address instead of the list address when I click reply. -- /Sorin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 5106 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.wald.intevation.org/pipermail/gpg4win-users-en/attachments/20090626/393267ec/smime.bin From sorin.srbu at orgfarm.uu.se Fri Jun 26 09:12:29 2009 From: sorin.srbu at orgfarm.uu.se (Sorin Srbu) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:12:29 +0200 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] reply-to "mangling" (was: Release planning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0)) In-Reply-To: <20090625203426.0d13b923@thewildbeast> References: <200906231814.03044.bernhard@intevation.de> <009701c9f564$5a11cae0$0e3560a0$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> <526999649.20090625092354@privateofcourse.co.uk> <200906251125.36224.bernhard@intevation.de> <00c801c9f57d$7b980fd0$72c82f70$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> <20090625175017.29c6880d@thewildbeast> <1139715687.20090625190933@privateofcourse.co.uk> <20090625203426.0d13b923@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <003f01c9f62d$7781db50$668591f0$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> >-----Original Message----- >From: gpg4win-users-en-bounces at wald.intevation.org [mailto:gpg4win-users-en- >bounces at wald.intevation.org] On Behalf Of Paul >Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:34 PM >To: gpg4win-users-en at wald.intevation.org >Subject: Re: [Gpg4win-users-en] reply-to "mangling" (was: Release planning >(2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0)) > >On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:09:33 +0100 >Privateofcourse wrote: > >> > It may help others on this list, (with not-so-good email >> > applications) >> >> Well, I know this is going even more OT, but with all due respect, >> that's a rather harsh judgement to make, and one I don't >> particularly agree with. > >That sentence was directed at Sorin Srbu, who sets a Reply-To, (as >do you), not about Reply-To munging by the list software. But,anyway >we digress... :) Not anymore I don't. ;-) Anyway, I get the hint. Let's drop this for now and get back to bashing the gpg4win package instead. ;-D -- /Sorin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 5106 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.wald.intevation.org/pipermail/gpg4win-users-en/attachments/20090626/4e87658e/smime-0001.bin From iain at holuwon.com Sun Jun 28 04:52:32 2009 From: iain at holuwon.com (IW) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:52:32 +0900 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] sylpheed claws Message-ID: <20090628115232.23b6daa2.iain@holuwon.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Is there a way to download ONLY this component? I used it years ago and then witched to sylpheed. Now I want to try it again but if I download the gpgwin package i cannot install due to a conflict. The current edition of win pt in the package is 1.2.0 and my already installed verison is 1.4.0. Regards, IW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: https://keyserver2.pgp.com/ iEYEARECAAYFAkpG2vAACgkQ90Gf33Iu52V96QCgzjaxcJpJesxaWrIO8he/nt/z GU4AoNElc/q80t8oFR8kLEdK7cOXPzDM =uHRJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From emanuel at intevation.de Mon Jun 29 10:25:30 2009 From: emanuel at intevation.de (Emanuel =?iso-8859-15?q?Sch=FCtze?=) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:25:30 +0200 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] Release planning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0) In-Reply-To: <006801c9f563$f257fd70$d707f850$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> References: <200906231814.03044.bernhard@intevation.de> <200906241703.01660.bernhard@intevation.de> <006801c9f563$f257fd70$d707f850$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> Message-ID: <200906291025.34754.emanuel@intevation.de> Hi Sorin, On 25.06.2009 09:09, Sorin Srbu wrote: > Just after pressing Send on my mailer I get a pop-up saying message > successfully encrypted and a close button. I press this close button, then > minimize Outlook to continue work, and there behind is some kind of status > window which at the bottom has a checked checkbox saying "keep window open > when done processing" or some such. I found some settings in Kleopatra I > think it was that offered "keep more silent" on several tabs. I checked > them all to see if they did anything. This was while Gpg4win, ie OpenPGP. The option "keep window open when done processing" is related to the current process only (e.g. during encryption of big files/attachments you can uncheck this option to close the Kleopatra dialog automatically). An option for "keep more silent" during sign/encrypt process doesn't exists in gpg4win 2.0.0-rc1. But it's on our wish list, too. Could be a new feature for gpg4win 2.0.x. Help or financing welcome. > You're misunderstanding, I don't want the Swedish menus, I want it > all-english. My system is otherwise all-english as well. It's a university > thing where eg Indian or Chinese Phd-students or postdocs wouldn't be able > to make head or tail of a Swedish Windows, so we run all-english OS and > supporting software. 8-) Please give us an example which menus not translated correctly on your system. (Do you mean Kleopatra?) > >In what language does the command.exe's gnupg2.exe and gpg-conf.exe > >speak to you? Do you have check the language of gpg2 and gpg-conf? > This morning when I started Outlook, it froze. Force-quitting it solved the > problem of course. When I started it again, it reported that the gpgol > addin caused a problem and would I like to disable it. I chose yes, and > outlook started fine afterwards. While in outlook, I enabled the addin > again and closed outlook then tried starting it again. Gpgol blew up again. > It's now disabled, and gpg4win is non-functional. This has happened > frequently with earlier versions of gpg4win, eg versions 1.1.3, 1.1.4, the > 1.1.9 betas and now the 2.0 RC1. This seems to only happen with outlook > 2007. Thanks for your report. Currently we can't reproduce it. But we'll do some more special test cases with 2.0.0-rc1 and Vista/OL2007. If you have more details for us please let us know. Thanks! Best regards Emanuel -- Emanuel Sch?tze | ++49-541-33 50 83 - 746 | http://www.intevation.de/ Intevation GmbH, Neuer Graben 17, 49074 Osnabr?ck | AG Osnabr?ck, HR B 18998 Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Frank Koormann, Bernhard Reiter, Dr. Jan-Oliver Wagner From sorin.srbu at orgfarm.uu.se Mon Jun 29 11:11:51 2009 From: sorin.srbu at orgfarm.uu.se (Sorin Srbu) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:11:51 +0200 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] Release planning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0) In-Reply-To: <200906291025.34754.emanuel@intevation.de> References: <200906231814.03044.bernhard@intevation.de> <200906241703.01660.bernhard@intevation.de> <006801c9f563$f257fd70$d707f850$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> <200906291025.34754.emanuel@intevation.de> Message-ID: <00af01c9f899$a3be4410$eb3acc30$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> >-----Original Message----- >From: Emanuel Sch?tze [mailto:emanuel at intevation.de] >Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 10:25 AM >To: gpg4win-users-en at wald.intevation.org; sorin.srbu at orgfarm.uu.se >Subject: Re: [Gpg4win-users-en] Release planning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0) > >> This morning when I started Outlook, it froze. Force-quitting it solved the >> problem of course. When I started it again, it reported that the gpgol >> addin caused a problem and would I like to disable it. I chose yes, and >> outlook started fine afterwards. While in outlook, I enabled the addin >> again and closed outlook then tried starting it again. Gpgol blew up again. >> It's now disabled, and gpg4win is non-functional. This has happened >> frequently with earlier versions of gpg4win, eg versions 1.1.3, 1.1.4, the >> 1.1.9 betas and now the 2.0 RC1. This seems to only happen with outlook >> 2007. > >Thanks for your report. Currently we can't reproduce it. But we'll do some >more special test cases with 2.0.0-rc1 and Vista/OL2007. If you have more >details for us please let us know. Thanks! Outlook should have some kind of internal event log thingie somewhere. I'll see if I can enable it and have it talk to me with GPG4win 2.0RC1 installed. 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Juni 2009 12:20:31 schrieb Sorin Srbu: > >We have one change in result windows coming up for 2.0.0, > >I would appreciate feedback on this after the change. > > That will be announced on this list, right? Yes, it should be. The announce list is even more save. :) > As is now, I can't use RC1 at > all, so no feedback from me for now. Sorry. 8-/ You mean because of the hang? I would love to know if some process is running wild and to have the GpgOL debug output just to get an idea what is wrong on your side. -- Managing Director - Owner: www.intevation.net (Free Software Company) Germany Coordinator: fsfeurope.org. Coordinator: www.Kolab-Konsortium.com. Intevation GmbH, Osnabr?ck, DE; Amtsgericht Osnabr?ck, HRB 18998 Gesch?ftsf?hrer Frank Koormann, Bernhard Reiter, Dr. Jan-Oliver Wagner -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. 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Juni 2009 09:09:33 schrieb Sorin Srbu: > >On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:12:44 +0200 > > > >"Sorin Srbu" wrote: > >> I vote for doing this, that is to say the reply button should put > >> the list address in the top-field. > > > >I agree with Bernhard ?- good email applications are mailing list > >aware. > > Sometimes you have no choice but using Outlook. 8-) Yes, just let us know what most people prefer. I counted one voice in favour of setting the reply-to to the list in order to help Outlook users. And several neutral ones. :) As somebody asked it (I seem to not to find the question anymore): Gpg4win contains its own email application called Claws and someone could also use Kontact on Windows (Kowi) together with Gpg4win. Bernhard -- Managing Director - Owner: www.intevation.net (Free Software Company) Germany Coordinator: fsfeurope.org. Coordinator: www.Kolab-Konsortium.com. 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Url : http://lists.wald.intevation.org/pipermail/gpg4win-users-en/attachments/20090629/94e611fa/attachment.pgp From sorin.srbu at orgfarm.uu.se Tue Jun 30 08:41:54 2009 From: sorin.srbu at orgfarm.uu.se (Sorin Srbu) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:41:54 +0200 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] Release planning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0) In-Reply-To: <200906291923.42185.bernhard@intevation.de> References: <200906231814.03044.bernhard@intevation.de> <200906251136.31130.bernhard@intevation.de> <00dc01c9f57e$9178fe80$b46afb80$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> <200906291923.42185.bernhard@intevation.de> Message-ID: <004601c9f94d$db9c9580$92d5c080$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> >-----Original Message----- >From: gpg4win-users-en-bounces at wald.intevation.org [mailto:gpg4win-users-en- >bounces at wald.intevation.org] On Behalf Of Bernhard Reiter >Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 7:24 PM >To: gpg4win-users-en at wald.intevation.org >Subject: Re: [Gpg4win-users-en] Release planning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0) > >> As is now, I can't use RC1 at >> all, so no feedback from me for now. Sorry. 8-/ > >You mean because of the hang? I would love to know if some process is running >wild and to have the GpgOL debug output just to get an idea what is wrong on >your side. Yeah, because of the hang, I really need Outlook to be fully functional at work. How do I enable GpgOL debug output? I could give it a go and install the whole package as soon as time permits. -- /Sorin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 5106 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.wald.intevation.org/pipermail/gpg4win-users-en/attachments/20090630/e6f889f3/smime.bin From sorin.srbu at orgfarm.uu.se Tue Jun 30 08:44:30 2009 From: sorin.srbu at orgfarm.uu.se (Sorin Srbu) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:44:30 +0200 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] reply-to "mangling" (was: Release planning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0)) In-Reply-To: <200906291929.47875.bernhard@intevation.de> References: <200906231814.03044.bernhard@intevation.de> <20090625175017.29c6880d@thewildbeast> <003701c9f62d$0ebdf0e0$2c39d2a0$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> <200906291929.47875.bernhard@intevation.de> Message-ID: <004d01c9f94e$384e2320$a8ea6960$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> >-----Original Message----- >From: gpg4win-users-en-bounces at wald.intevation.org [mailto:gpg4win-users-en- >bounces at wald.intevation.org] On Behalf Of Bernhard Reiter >Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 7:30 PM >To: gpg4win-users-en at wald.intevation.org >Subject: Re: [Gpg4win-users-en] reply-to "mangling" (was: Release planning >(2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0)) > >Yes, just let us know what most people prefer. >I counted one voice in favour of setting the reply-to to the list >in order to help Outlook users. And several neutral ones. :) > >As somebody asked it (I seem to not to find the question anymore): >Gpg4win contains its own email application called Claws >and someone could also use Kontact on Windows (Kowi) together with Gpg4win. Not to diss Claws et al, they are most probably good or even excellent for the *right* end-user. I personally need Outlook to be able to support my users, who also use Outlook. That's really the only reason. -- /Sorin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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GSM: +420?602?251 225 marek.herman at esinform.cz ? -----Original Message----- From: gpg4win-users-en-bounces at wald.intevation.org [mailto:gpg4win-users-en-bounces at wald.intevation.org] On Behalf Of Sorin Srbu Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:45 AM To: gpg4win-users-en at wald.intevation.org Subject: Re: [Gpg4win-users-en] reply-to "mangling" (was: Releaseplanning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0)) >-----Original Message----- >From: gpg4win-users-en-bounces at wald.intevation.org >[mailto:gpg4win-users-en- bounces at wald.intevation.org] On Behalf Of >Bernhard Reiter >Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 7:30 PM >To: gpg4win-users-en at wald.intevation.org >Subject: Re: [Gpg4win-users-en] reply-to "mangling" (was: Release >planning >(2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0)) > >Yes, just let us know what most people prefer. >I counted one voice in favour of setting the reply-to to the list in >order to help Outlook users. And several neutral ones. :) > >As somebody asked it (I seem to not to find the question anymore): >Gpg4win contains its own email application called Claws and someone >could also use Kontact on Windows (Kowi) together with Gpg4win. Not to diss Claws et al, they are most probably good or even excellent for the *right* end-user. I personally need Outlook to be able to support my users, who also use Outlook. That's really the only reason. -- /Sorin From rob.macgregor at gmail.com Tue Jun 30 12:32:00 2009 From: rob.macgregor at gmail.com (Rob MacGregor) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:32:00 +0100 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] reply-to "mangling" (was: Releaseplanning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0)) In-Reply-To: <2C408309B3B8AA42934ECBABAE017FBE1A1907@office.ESI.local> References: <200906231814.03044.bernhard@intevation.de> <20090625175017.29c6880d@thewildbeast> <200906291929.47875.bernhard@intevation.de> <2C408309B3B8AA42934ECBABAE017FBE1A1907@office.ESI.local> Message-ID: <43ea8d070906300332u241a00c8sb5251d508a08be68@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 07:46, HERMAN Marek wrote: > Hello, please can you help me unsubscribe? From bogus@does.not.exist.com Mon Jun 29 09:03:40 2009 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:03:40 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: List-Id: Users discussion in english language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , As found in the footer of every email: > http://lists.wald.intevation.org/mailman/listinfo/gpg4win-users-en -- Please keep list traffic on the list. Rob MacGregor Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he doesn't become a monster. Friedrich Nietzsche From bernhard at intevation.de Tue Jun 30 15:21:49 2009 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:21:49 +0200 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] GpgOL (was: Release planning (2.0.0rc1 and 2.0.0)) In-Reply-To: <004601c9f94d$db9c9580$92d5c080$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> References: <200906231814.03044.bernhard@intevation.de> <200906291923.42185.bernhard@intevation.de> <004601c9f94d$db9c9580$92d5c080$@srbu@orgfarm.uu.se> Message-ID: <200906301521.49432.bernhard@intevation.de> Am Dienstag, 30. Juni 2009 08:41:54 schrieb Sorin Srbu: > How do I enable GpgOL debug output? Add a registry entry: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\GNU\GpgOL enableDebug to 1 logFile to something sensible e.g. C:\TEMP\gpgol.log http://gpg4win.de/handbuecher/compendium_de_28.html Or installed in the GPGOL technical manual, e.g. C:\Programme\GNU\GnuPG\share\doc\gpgol\gpgol.pdf -- Managing Director - Owner: www.intevation.net (Free Software Company) Germany Coordinator: fsfeurope.org. Coordinator: www.Kolab-Konsortium.com. Intevation GmbH, Osnabr?ck, DE; Amtsgericht Osnabr?ck, HRB 18998 Gesch?ftsf?hrer Frank Koormann, Bernhard Reiter, Dr. Jan-Oliver Wagner -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://lists.wald.intevation.org/pipermail/gpg4win-users-en/attachments/20090630/372ed5f6/attachment.pgp From nitnit at gmail.com Fri Jun 26 13:29:16 2009 From: nitnit at gmail.com (Nit Nit) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:29:16 -0000 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] GPA 0.9.0 - no drag-and-drop in file window Message-ID: Hellp gpg4win developers ! I have upgraded from v1.1.4 to 2.0.0RC1. So far, everything works fine (I am not using the outlook plugin !), except that I have noticed that drag-and-drop of files from windows explorer to the files window of GPA doesn't work for me ! I am using an XP SP3. Regards Nit A -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wald.intevation.org/pipermail/gpg4win-users-en/attachments/20090626/b6a9ad28/attachment-0001.html From ThomasBellmann at web.de Sun Jun 28 18:16:19 2009 From: ThomasBellmann at web.de (Thomas Bellmann) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:16:19 -0000 Subject: [Gpg4win-users-en] sylpheed claws In-Reply-To: <20090628115232.23b6daa2.iain@holuwon.com> References: <20090628115232.23b6daa2.iain@holuwon.com> Message-ID: <20090628181611.446af1a9@c2d-sid> IW wrote : > Is there a way to download ONLY this component? For windows binaries I don't think so. > I used it years ago and then witched to sylpheed. Now I want to try > it again but if I download the gpgwin package i cannot install due to > a conflict. The current edition of win pt in the package is 1.2.0 and > my already installed verison is 1.4.0. You can extract the single files from the package. But this won't help you much if you are connected with 56kbps or such. Regards Thomas