[Gpg4win-users-en] WKD for OpenPGP certificate "Intevation File Distribution Key <distribution-key at intevation.de>"

Andre Heinecke aheinecke at gnupg.org
Tue Aug 6 10:26:33 CEST 2019


Hi,

On Monday 5 August 2019 15:18:01 CEST Thomas Arendsen Hein wrote:
> But for the following scenario this fails:
> 1. Gpg4win version x.y.1 is released in January 2020, signed by the 2016 
key.
> 2. Intevation creates a new distribution key in February 2020 and
>    uploads it to the WKD, replacing the 2016 key.
> 3. The next Gpg4win release x.y.2 will be released in April 2020.
> -> There are 2-3 months where even the newest release can't be
>    verified by a key retrieved from WKD.

Yes, in that case Intevation should only update the key together with a 
release. It is a bit problematic but happily such a key rollover does not 
happen much.

> > The old key is still used by some "historic" apt repositories that 
intevation 
> > still publishes, so it should not be revoked.
> 
> And old Gpg4win releases (including sources!) are signed by the old
> key, too, so revoking it would make verifying the integrity harder.
> (now this will be for releases that are at least 3 years old, but
> when the next rollover happens this will be for quite recent
> releases)

This depends a bit on how you handle key rollover in the GUI. For example 
Kleopatra does show it yellow if a key is expired. It says "Valid signature 
but the key has expired" which I find O.K.

> And as indicated above, this does not only affect our distribution
> key, but key rollover for other users as well where a new key should
> be used for new correspondence, but the old key should continue to
> be available to verify recent correspondence signed by the previous
> key.

Again, depends a bit on the GUI. I know that KMail at least in old version 
would show that bloody red for expired / revoked keys. But IMO at least expiry 
is "not so bad" because of the above mentioned reasons. And at some point we 
will have to expired the 1024 bit key to show "Don't trust it too much 
anymore". That happens next year and is the right thing.

Btw. I think that the rsa3072 key can have it expiry extended to at least 
2026. So that it will have been in use for 10 years like the old key. And this 
should not happen at the last moment. I do not see much reason currently to 
switch to ECC as for a rare file verification there are no real performance 
reasons and the security of rsa3072 is still very good. 


Best Regards,
Andre

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