[Gpg4win-devel] Idea for making logging easier

Andre Heinecke aheinecke at gnupg.org
Fri Jul 1 11:27:00 CEST 2022


Hi,

On Friday 1 July 2022 10:54:38 CEST Christoph Klassen wrote:
> On 7/1/22 09:01, Andre Heinecke wrote:
> > Currently you can under Kleopatra under Settings -> Configure Kleopatra ->
> > GnuPG System enable logging for each component.
> This option is not for every component is it? I mean it does not include 
> for example the dirmngr. At least this is what I understand from chapter 
> 22.4 from the compendium.

Dirmngr is included as "Network" (We do not expect users to know the name 
dirmngr)

> > Usually support tells the users which log file they should enable and in my
> > experience this works nicely even with non technical users. I usually 
suggest
> > users to set the log level to all. And disable it again after they have 
done
> > the action we wish to debug.
> Maybe it is no problem because these people *have* to use Gpg4win and 
> that's why they take their time to follow the instructions. Plus, you 
> give them professional support. I thought of users who use Gpg4win 
> privately and who don't want to spend much time to help developers to 
> debug a problem. It's more about helping them to help themselves.

Yes, with this in mind we had added the diagnostic output to kleopatra which 
shows what would be on stderr on the console. We do not have that for all
commands like import or the key interaction commands. This could also
be extended. 

Anyway I think for the users without professional support a "debug tab" in the 
config would also help. 

> That sounds good. A default path means one step less in the instructions 
> to debug something and if they just can use checkboxes they don't have 
> to look for different conf files.

Yes, would you be willing to work on that? I think that it could be a nice 
little project.

Best Regards,
Andre

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